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The story of the Brexit Goose and the Welsh Gander

David Davis MP, affectionately known as Basher, is the man in charge with exiting the UK from the EU.

On Wednesday 15 March he faced the Brexit Committee in Parliament.

Ian Dunt, Editor of tweeted live from the committee meeting. You can find his long, and at times shocking, thread of tweets here.

Once again, this website will not state any views on Brexit. This website is concerned with Independence for Wales. What form that independence takes is a matter for the people of Wales.

However what’s interesting is that many of the arguments put forward before and after the Brexit referendum, apply also to Wales.

Take back control, for instance.

Isn’t that a nice thought for us in Wales!

Or being governed by ‘people that are unelected’, as was said by Bryan ‘Everything I do I do it for the Summer of 69’ Adams, of all people,

To be fair maybe he wasn’t aware that the second house was full of unelected peers and that the UK’s head of State is an unelected Monarch. He is Canadian after all.

The Hon Member for the Early 20th Century, Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg, called the EU a “bureaucratic run-by-the-Commission inefficient failed state”, which would be far more pertinent if it was given as a description of the UK.

Or the insufferable tag of ‘Greatness’,

OK, we in Wales have never claimed to be ‘great’. We see it more as an attempt to compensate for something, but we couldn’t possibly say what! But our demand for Independence, while not wanting any greatness, would at least make Wales a sovereign nation once again.

And much more besides.

Anyhow, back to Basher.

Ian Dunt’s reporting of Basher’s contribution left us here at Gwalia Towers agog.

But what caught our eye was his response to questions about economic assessments.

Anyone who has promoted the case for an Independent Wales will have, sooner or later (probably sooner) faced the question about what state would our economy be in post Independence. It is demanded from us that we provide a detailed fiscal and economic policy of an independent Wales. Much of those questions can be answered in these posts, and no doubt much more will appear over the next few years.

But many of those very same people who dismiss any notion of an Independent Wales being economically successful are also ardent supporters of Brexit.

When asked about the economic challenges that might face a UK post Brexit people are told that they are talking the UK down or that they lack faith.

Well nine months have now passed since the referendum, and Article 50 will be triggered over the next few days.

So it’s only right that we should get some answers about what assessments have been done into the UK economy post Brexit.

Who should answer such questions? Well old Basher of course, the man in charge of the whole thing.

So what did he have to say?

But then we have the pièce de résistance,

So there we have it.

Even with such a momentous thing as Brexit, which involves 27 different Nation States, thousands of pieces of legislation; trillions of dollars worth of exporting and importing, Basher has said that the economic argument – the numbers – aren’t needed.

So when someone next challenges you about what an independent Wales might look like economically, what economic impact independence would have, refer them to this paraphrased quote by David Davis MP, “Sometimes in business you know a deal is better even when you don’t have the numbers”. Thank you Basher me ol’ son.

After all, what’s good for the Brexit Goose is good for the Welsh Gander.

1 Comment on The story of the Brexit Goose and the Welsh Gander

  1. Simon Gruffydd // March 15, 2017 at 3:45 pm // Reply

    Good points. I still believe that a ‘Wexit’ (from the UK) naturally follows on from Brexit. The argument for sovereignty, ‘taking back control’, etc. can be equally employed to argue for an independent Wales.

    Those who are arguing for and “independent Wales in Europe” (i.e. the EU) are either ignorant of the thoroughly undemocratic nature of the EU, or have another agenda they are not revealing. There are no independent nations in the EU. On the contrary.

    Also, the fact that the majority in Wales flatly refused to be swayed by a bombardment of threats of economic doom leading up to the referendum suggests that we could do it again leading up to a Welsh independence referendum.

    Regarding the economy, the big challenge is weaning us of the financialised view of economies pushed by the elites. The real economy is not about numbers but about trading goods and services among each other. A debt-free Welsh pound would not simply take care of ‘the numbers’ but would emancipate ourselves from debt-slavery.

    The facts are on our side. We simply need to shape the discourse.


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